New Queens Of the Stone age album, hit or miss?

[Smallstone]

Ok, I heard a CDR a few weeks ago of Lullabies To Paralyse and I must admit at the time to be being decidedly underwhelmed, which was a new experience for me in regards to QOTSA!
So anyway, I went out today and purchased the fancy CD with limitd edition DVD (of probably 30'000) and I'm listening to it now. It's.......ok. Its just lacking a little something? Now I'm not the biggest Nick Oliveri fan in the world. The joke with him kinda runs a little thin after a while. Silly beard, gets his kit off, takes drugs, yeah whatever.... So when he was dumped from the band I wasn't TOO bothered. But listening back to Rated R and Songs For The Deaf (and he 1st album which is a masterpiece IMO) and now listening to this rekkid, he's kinda missed!!! Not on Little Sister which is a great tune and would fit on any QOTSA album, but over the course of the CD. Joeys a great drummer n'all but he's not as good as Grohl.....
Anyone else picked this album up?

[I love Kim Deal]

It really has been a mixed bag of reviews hasn't it?

NME and Q loved it, as well as some other magazines, but Kerrang! slated it. Although I don't own the album yet, I think Little Sister is a good song.

We all in our own ways miss Nick, and I thought it was him that gave QOTSA that unpredictable edge. Now however, it just all about Josh, which I don't like.

Joey is a good drummer especially on Bubblegum, Lanegan's new album, and I've seen him play live, he replicates Dave Grohl's drumbeats from "Songs For The Deaf" perfectly. But of course, there is hardly anybody that can fill Dave's shoes. I remember wishing Dave had stayed with Queens, because I thought the Foo Fighters weren't that great as QOTSA, and let's face it, Dave is a WAY better drummer than guitarist. Only the new album by the Foo Fighters will prove my theory or totally trash it. Wow a long post, I'm gonna stop now.

[Thurston_Whore]

i bought it today,and i must say so far from what im listening to i kinda dig it,its diffrent to songs for the deaf,i think this album is a grower and not as straight forward as previous albums they've done,but i will go with ''HIT''

[RaunchHands]

they have the whole album up for streaming on their myspace page, and that's how i've heard it so far... so i can't speak about this one too much, except that "little sister" is a nice tune. so i'll just throw in some random thoughts:

as much as i love nick as a person and as a character, i must say i was never a huge fan of his work with qotsa. i mean he was cool, but all this people that cried, "josh sold out!" or "qotsa will never be the same thing again" when he kicked him out, i don't understand them. smallstone mentioned the band's first album (which i still consider their masterwork) and as far as i know, nick never played a single note on that record. it was all josh, i think he even played drums on most if not all the tracks there. nick started writing stuff for qotsa on rated R but i've alwasy preferred homme's material.

i've seen the reviews for LTP, and how "mixed" they are, but then again NME and kerrang never meant shit to me. allmsuic.com has a positive review for LTB which sounds reasonable and a great review of SFTD which pretty much sums up most of my opinions about that record. it was a very good, very solid, and very adventurous album, and i really like it a lot, but it had its flaws. personally, and i've probably said this already, i also think it was too long. towards the end it gets more and more uninteresting. it would've been a much better record without things like "another love song" or "mosquito song".

also, this whole "dave grohl : #1 drummer in the world" thing really has to go, too. he's fantastic, but he doesn't do anything that dan peters couldn't do. but he's DAVE GROHL, man. whatever. i've seen them live twice with joey and both shows were so packed with rabid new fans screaming like girls at a justin timberlake gig that i couldn't even follow the music, so i guess my fave qotsa drummer so far has got to be gene from the miracle workers!

[Smallstone]

Ok - I've lived with the record for a few days and it's still not really doing it for me like the previous releases. It's not awful but, you know, it's just not making me feel amped up like SFTD... It's not bad! I don;t know.... I'm gonna perservere a bit more...
I wasn't aware that Nick O didn't play on the 1st album. That's interesting... Did Alfredo not drum on that as well?
I saw them on their first UK tour (at the Garage in London) when the band was Josh, Nick Alfredo and Dave Catching (i think - though it could have been Hutch?). I liked Alfredos drumming.
Sorry Raunchhands:) but I think Grohl is a pretty fine drummer, one of a kind really. I think his elevation to gidhead status is justified. I realise folks get all sweaty cos he was in that Nirvana band but as a drummer he's exceptional! Check out his work on the last Killing Joke album!! It's great! The QOTSA show I caight him at was one of the best I've seen them play. Joey is good don't get me wrong........ we could bat this back till the end of time I know.
True - no review is really gonna influence me as to whether or not I go out and buy this record. Let alone the frickin NME or Kerrang!!
One other thing I agree with though is these album are TOO LONG! This new one is 66 minutes!! Thats just too much music and full of filler imo.... 40 minutes is enough for me. Maybe I'm just getting too old and my senility is kicking in, but I just can't concentrate on an album over and hour long! Why pad it out!

I think I better go and lay down now, time for my afternoon rest......

[thorn]

nope queens have lost it and now want nick back becuase the albums is shit compared to the others!!!! idiots why did they fire him in the damn first place!!!!

[I love Kim Deal]

the over used theory of "creative differences" I think. I do miss Nick. He did give QOTSA an edge although I'm not sure what one. But the I guess the new album is the best they could do without Nick.

[thorn]

yep thats exactly it its the best they could do without nick and thats it, nothing more nothing less.

[norecess]

mudhoney1234 said:

Joey is a good drummer especially on Bubblegum, Lanegan's new album

Come on... Bubblegum is like raw blues, QOTSA isn't about that at all. No matter how good he plays on Bubblegum, that has nothing to with his performance on L2P.

Besides, I remember I read there are like 5 or 6 drummers on Bubblegum.

and I've seen him play live, he replicates Dave Grohl's drumbeats from "Songs For The Deaf" perfectly.

Hell no. He fucked up all songs from SftD!

I want Alfredo Hernandez back. Tight as hell.

[Smallstone]

OK so two years on (doesn't time fly!) and there's ANOTHER new QOTSA album. Sadly again I'm finding it to be a massive disappointment On many levels.
Production wise it's just really flat and in places just reeks of pro tool trickery and an almost 'industrial' syncopation. God each track is a struggle. Horrible guitar sounds, Josh's (and whoever else is singing) vocals way up in the mix. Just a general lack of any ideas. I think this is where me and QOTSA finally part ways for good. Which personally I find a little sad as in the late 90s/early Noughties they were a real beacon and alternative to the nu-metal muppets that still seem to still rule the roost.
Track 7 is I think a Desert Sessions track re-done, 'Make it Wit Chu' - it's almost acceptable, actually no it's not, it sounds kinda tired. It seems that Homme really is floundering without Oliveri (despite that dudes boorish traits). Lets face it Eagles of Death Metal were a barely one trick pony and that joke got very very dull very very quickly. The Desert Sessions seem to have dried up (the lst one wasn't very good anyway).
This albums just devoid of excitement. It's 5 years since 'Songs For The Deaf'. Hmmm this is terrible. My wifes asked me to take it off! Ho hum. Anyone else heard this?