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Post by showaa on Oct 9, 2006 1:26:13 GMT 1
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Post by thumper on Oct 9, 2006 12:23:08 GMT 1
Got them all. At least most of them.
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Post by Smallstone on Oct 10, 2006 11:20:59 GMT 1
oh this is just Sub Pop porn! Nice to see all these 7"s together in one place! Said it before but Sub Pop don't seem to take that much interest in their past. In some ways this is understandable - you've got to keep looking forward as a label. I worked for a 'famous UK indie' in the late 90s - history similar to Sub Pop and to tell you the truth the 'fans' where MUCH more interested in the labels history and old bands than the people that worked at the label - that includes the BOSS!! It was sort of odd - but there you go. I was the same I suppose. But with Sub Pop - you kinda think their must be a reason why they don't re-issue something like Tads 'Gods Balls' or whatever. Or do what Creation Records did in the early 90s and releases comps of all their early singles. Be nice. Ho hum. I just don't have the income to go chasing up all these early 7"s - I have some of the ones I want - there are a few I'd like - Blood Circus, Swallow etc - the early ones basically  Maybe Das Damen (what ever happened to them?!) But still - I hope these go to a nice home - not some dealer who's gonna split them up and sell Love Buzz for silly money! |
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Post by norecess on Oct 10, 2006 11:56:32 GMT 1
Said it before but Sub Pop don't seem to take that much interest in their past. In some ways this is understandable - you've got to keep looking forward as a label. I worked for a 'famous UK indie' in the late 90s - history similar to Sub Pop and to tell you the truth the 'fans' where MUCH more interested in the labels history and old bands than the people that worked at the label - that includes the BOSS!! So you would disagree with what Steve Albini says in this T&G video? www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AT4Dcz2yvE |
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Post by Smallstone on Oct 10, 2006 12:50:21 GMT 1
which bit?
The treating people fairly bit? The history stuff? Corey Rusk's life work - the working for a label 'not being a job'?
God bless Corey Rusk though - one of the good guys!!
25 years is a long time to do.... anything!!!
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Post by norecess on Oct 10, 2006 14:21:25 GMT 1
It was about people care more about older stuff, and that T&G have always been putting out their old catalogue. Man, this reminds me of an online business model stragy thingy I've been reading about lately, called The Long Tail. For those who are interested: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail |
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Post by Smallstone on Oct 10, 2006 15:04:51 GMT 1
Yes - T&G lovely folks that they are - are pretty on their catalogue. Last 12 months they've done some good re-issues of old earky 80s stuff like Blight and the Fix - and indeed pretty much all their albums from Negative Approach thru Big Boys etc are you can still get. Only when bands welch on the no deal deals (hello Butthole Surfers!) do they 'lose' albums.
Thats kinda my point - why don't Sub Pop do it?
Partly cos making 500 CDs in the UK means you have to do 1000 print and I guess it may take a while to sell thru....but still...
As for the label I worked for - they did keep as much of their catalogue in print for as long as 'fiscally possible'. Even on vinyl (ok this was 10 years ago).
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Post by norecess on Oct 10, 2006 16:09:37 GMT 1
Thats kinda my point - why don't Sub Pop do it? They're practically a major, aren't they? Doesn't 49% of Sub Pop belong to a major? Warner? So what I think, and this may sound stupid and uninformed, is that they don't really care about music anymore. They seem to only focus on big hits, while still a lot of people - maybe not one big market, but lots of small markets I think - are interested in stuff they have put out when they just started. Albini is right on that video about that point. When I discover a band like, I don't know, Negative Approach, I want to know what other stuff they have released and how I can get a hold of that, not about similar from now or anything. About selling stuff like the Love Buzz single for a lot of money, doesn't Steve make a living (or, well, you know...) out of that? |
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Post by Smallstone on Oct 10, 2006 16:51:05 GMT 1
Nah - thats not really the case with Sub Pop. Even if WEA do own about 49% they don't oay THAT much attention. Can you imagine how bothered they are by say Dead Moon comp or the new Wolf Eyes CD? How many bands in the last 5 years have been 'fast tracked' from Sub Pop onto Warners. I can think of 1. Hot Hot Heat. And what happened to them!! Warners weren't even bothered by the Shins!! Its nowt to do with WEA. I like Sub Pop - don't get me wrong. They're easily one of the more interesting labels in the US. That last comp had some great stuff on it - Pissed Jeans etc. Lots of stuff I don't care for too. I think they DO care actually about new stuff. Just not about Tad. Ha ha ha. And Seaweed - heh heh heh And yeah Albini speaks A LOT of sense in that clip. Especially about how folks discover music and I guess how they buy it. Touch & Go want to sell LOTS of recods too. Thats how they stay in business...... |
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Post by norecess on Oct 10, 2006 18:31:26 GMT 1
One thing's for sure, Sub Pop has lost the loud and clear vision and mission they had when they started out, I think we can all agree on that.
Maybe Warner isn't too concerned about the bands that are signed to Sub Pop, but more in the business strategy of Sub Pop and as long as they obtain their goals it's going well. Is that a possibility?
Also, the people on Sub Pop aren't too concerned about Wolf Eyes either I think. Maybe now, but they were signed to Sub Pop 'cause a friend og the band had sent a cassette to Sub Pop to see what... hey, I'm contradicting myself now. Which isn't too bad actually 'cause it shows there are still some people involved there with heart for good music. Although I doubt if Burned Mind qualifies for music, let alone 'good' music.
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Maybe Das Damen (what ever happened to them?!)