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Post by norecess on Dec 27, 2005 23:44:41 GMT 1
I agree that they're not stupid and don't do any dumb things, they should just rock harder! It's about the music, right? I rather go see a band that fucking rocks and are a bit dumb - weren't Mudhoney being accused of that? - than go see a smart, pretentious rock band.
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Post by Thurston_Whore on Dec 28, 2005 0:00:04 GMT 1
Yeah i totally agree with you norecess man and can understand you'r mudhoney comment,sure pearl jam aint dumb but i agree again they could rock a tad harder i just think the music has grown with them and as i said in a previous post their music has seemed to get more compilcated which could be good? and also could be a bad thing? It still rocks for me but there sure is room for improvement there.
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Post by norecess on Dec 28, 2005 12:42:42 GMT 1
I have to confess I have the same problems with Sonic Youth sometimes, I really do. There are times I love their music, but there also moments that I find Thurston Moore an irritating pretentious punk rock art fag. Anyone understands what I mean?
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Post by h8kurdt on Dec 28, 2005 13:45:39 GMT 1
They are frequently accused of being to pretentious for their own good. I never look at them that way which is probably why I love them so much.
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Post by armedwithmud on Jan 1, 2006 21:03:02 GMT 1
Let's bare in mind that the Primary reason for Cobain's outright hatred of Pearl Jam was based on the fact that he looked up to Mark and Steve and at the time they resented Jeff and Stone and their commercial aspirations post Green River. As such Kurt merely mirrored the attitudes held by Mudhoney. Over the course of their careers both Pearl Jam and Mudhoney grew to deeply respect eachother given their seattle heritage and put aside past differences in favour of a cooperative, mature friendship. In terms of music you either like it or you dont. But I won't accept any comparison with faux alternative bands of today eg Linkin Park who were bred to follow all the Rules for Success as dictated by their label. What truely "corporate" band could create the fascinating tapestry of music and artwork by following the bullshit guidelines the Black Suits provide...?? Overall i thought the Q Grunge special was amusing in the sense that the individual journalists held contrasting opinions for the other grunge exponents and as such none of the articles were impartial but littered with Cobain vs. Pearl Jam , Courtney vs. Cobain undertones etc etc. "Where Soundgarden the Macho men of Grunge or am I too stupid to notice the irony of their "Big, Dumb Sex" song...?" Then there's the reviewer who believed Temple of the Dog was both Vedder and Cornell's best musical contribution...!!! I mean WTF?  Could you sell them any more short?! At the end of the day let the music do the talking. The Journalists will always do their best to twist and spin everything out of proportion, by inciting the kind of raging debate that makes the whole Seattle scene so intruiging, but i t's only ever designed to sell more issues. End of Story. Happy New Year  |
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Post by Smallstone on Jan 2, 2006 9:36:32 GMT 1
Armedwithmud I salute you!! ;D Some great points there. I know what you mean re: the whole Green River/PJ axis and maybe Kurt was peddling the party line and 'siding' with the cool kids on the issue..... but then again this is the dude who wrote 'School' (supposedly) as a reaction to the peer pressure he felt from the Seattle scene. Guess we'll never know. This Q magazine will surely win no journalistic awards, but despite the commerce involved... I thought the Mudhoney piece was well written and... I liked the nice pictures  But Grunge.... what a stupid catch all term. All of the bands featured (bar Hole - and they are kinda connected) are from Seattle or Washington State. I do realise that if you called the mag 'Nirvana & The Sound of the Late 80s/Early 90s Pacific North West Scenes experimemt with a new sound that fused Punk with Classic Rock and Metal (or whatever:) it would sell less.....but hey nevermind. But it would have been nice to have seen a nod to Sonic Youth or Killdozer.... Historically it's these kind of twisted pieces that make it seem like we all were running around in 1991 in big shorts and Temple Of The Dog t shirts listening to Alice In Chains whilst drinking lattes and taking heroin  |
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Post by Boudewijn on Jan 4, 2006 10:23:59 GMT 1
Good to know, lucky me their is a store in my village that mostly has the Q Magazine. I will definetaly go pick it up.
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Post by I love Kim Deal on Jan 5, 2006 10:26:33 GMT 1
I sorta guessed there's one song that Mudhoney has that's about heroin or seems like it. It was on March to Fuzz.............can't remember it..... shit. Didn't know that he overdosed and hated Kurt though.
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Post by h8kurdt on Jan 5, 2006 10:59:49 GMT 1
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Post by Smallstone on Jan 5, 2006 20:33:49 GMT 1
Sorry I love Melissa Auf Der Maur but re: your post:
'I sorta guessed there's one song that Mudhoney has that's about heroin or seems like it. It was on March to Fuzz.............can't remember it..... shit. Didn't know that he overdosed and hated Kurt though.'
Sorry. Mark A didn't 'hate' Kurt. Where do you get that idea from? Get the Q magazine Grunge-arama and re-read it, or read any of the times Marks gone on the record re: Kurt (and there's been a few). They were friends with it would SEEM a lot of mutual repsect. Mark cleaned up. Kurt didn't.
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Could you sell them any more short?!
